Yesterday the Courier-Mail had this to say about a hearing in the Beenleigh Magistrate's Court on that day. The case was adjourned until 29 February.
I'm indebted to an activist for passing that information to me. Another, who was at the court, offers these comments for your additional information—
Hajnal Black was in court yesterday fighting allegations brought against her by the State Government. The allegations are in regard to bank accounts, property interest and transactions that were not disclosed to Logan City Council as required by law. Hajnal was defending herself against the charges.
Hajnal prides herself on being a Barrister and has defended her credentials with great vigour when questioned in Council meetings. She has also talked about representing people in the past. Given the way in which she sometimes conducts herself in Council meetings, when she is there, I went along to the court and was expecting to see a fired-up Hajnal with very good legal arguments. However it was just the opposite.
From early-on during the hearing two things became very clear. One was she appeared to have no defence to the allegations brought against her and the other was she should not have represented herself.
Hajnal was unable to argue points of law, which frustrated the judge. She appeared flustered, nervous and was incredibly ill-prepared. At one time she argued the point that she was not supplied copies of emails that the prosecution may or may not present to court during the trial. When the judge asked who these emails were between, she replied that she was one of the parties to whom the emails were sent from or to.
It was painful to watch the judge remind her of the bleeding obvious. Which was, surely, if Mrs Black was the recipient or sender of such emails then Mrs Black could simply search her own files for them. One of many times Hajnal’s head fell low and papers were shuffled.
At one point the judge had to raise his voice and tell Hajnal to be quiet. I started to wonder if Hajnal’s credentials are nothing more than sitting through a dozen episodes of Judge Judy. Hanjal’s husband, Sean, made a brief appearance. During one of Hajnal’s poor arguments, which was not going in her favour, Sean Black calmly stood up and took a few steps towards the judge. After about 30 seconds the Judge asked him to leave or sit down. Sean explained that due to his wife being flustered she had forgotten something important that he wanted to remind her of.
This time, in a more threatening voice, the Judge said, “Sit down or get out”.
With the help of the judge and the prosecution she did, however, get a few week's adjournment. Hajnal seemed to be pushing for a date after council elections, possibly because, if convicted, I believe she would be unable to stand.
I suspect the prosecution did not oppose the adjournment as they claimed their case is very strong and they do not want to give Hajnal Black the benefit of being able to say she did not have enough time to prepare for the trial.
The whole experience was painful to watch but at the same time a bit sad. This is a self-proclaimed power-couple of politics whose political careers appear to be going very quickly down the toilet. President Nixon once said, “When the president does it, that means it is not illegal”. I can’t help but think these two have the same attitude.
12 January 2012
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So, let me get this right, Black gets from the judge what she applied for and her 'performance' and 'ability' as a barrister is questioned. Most likely because she is a woman and this blog always targets women, particularly the conservative Hajnal Black, in an aggressive way. I think this is a ridiculous slanted considering all other media reports of the way the hearing went show a very different side of the story. Hang your head in shame; shame Lin Hall for even publishing it. Considering the fact you have allowed crap and lies to be to published about this case in the past, I am not really surprised.
My only advice is that crap/biased stories like this are used by defendants in criminal cases to request a mis-trial.
Hi Anonymous of 12:03, I am so pleased to get your comment and pleased that it is full of the same old same old.
I'm pleased that you are in the same rut and allowing me to show readers how silly much of what you say can be. And with that much either silly or just wrong you are not doing yourself or anyone else any good.
Well 13/01/2012 12:03
It seems you are the one with the slanted story, Missus Black applied for the case to be "struck out" she did not get what she applied for.
I also can't find any crap or lies about this case here in either the blog posts or the comments to then except for misguided and sometimes plain wrong comments from her supporters who are attempting to make out she is a victim of some kind, when she actually is responsible for her own journey to the courts.
No threats of defamation suits yet ?
Maybe the soon to be unemployed are still working on "points of law"....
Maybe it is time to have the JT publish pics of said persons wielding shovels in a convincing way.
Anon 13/01/2012 12:03
Not sure what planet you are on.
Even the news.com.au article says that Black was only successful with her application for adjournment.
"Mr Morgan dismissed Cr Black's other applications..."
If you would like to read some crap/bias, perhaps I could refer you to blogs, quotes and facebook efforts attributed to either of 2 LCC councillors.
BTW I am sure that I read here once that S. Black would no longer read or comment on this blog and that his partner also did not read or comment.
Its a shame that she is still able to set community members against each other.
She has been caught with her hand in the cookie jar and if that's not apparent then her supporters must be just like her.
She has always been quick to speak out against individuals - whether right or wrong. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
Politicians always need to be aware that their actions, private or public, will always be up for scrutiny. After all the public pay their wages and for all the perks, so we are entitled to know what we are paying for.
All I can say is what goes around comes around - now its her turn.
Lord Barry Bonkton, you cannot advocate sending anyone to goal in this blog. It's not kosher you know.
Keep the crap rolling in. The more you blog crap and lies, the closer you get to delivering a miss trial.
23;13. Stupid comment and completely wrong. If I really thought making a comment here could affect what ever trial you speak of or any that I'm interested in, I would be making comments with real substance and real factual evidence, but unfortunately the only venue where comments will affect the outcome of a trial is the court where it is being held, and I am not a witness called for either the prosecution or the defence. but I see what you did there, miss, trial, I think we know what you mean.
Anonymous 23.13, the only person who is telling lies is Sean himself. If you believe for one second that anything that man says is the truth, you are just as delusional as he is.
Exhibit A: anonymous 12.03. She is in court because she did the wrong thing, the reason that the court granted her more time is because the prosecution provided documentation that she couldn't verify, so the judge has provided her with more time (more than I think she needs) to ensure there are no more excuses at her next hearing. NOT because of her legal abilities, based on the reports that I have, she and Sean were lucky not be held in contempt!
She is NOT being prosecuted because of her stance against the ULDA, or her stance against extremist groups, or her protest against putting the Greens last on the how to vote cards, OR because she is FEMALE, what a load of crap!!!!!!
BTW anonymous, it's not a trial, they are only court hearings. I hope you're not on Hajnal's defence team!
Sigh... little men with big voices.
You know, it might be easier to take you seriously if you displayed a basic grasp of spelling and grammar. My 10 year old can pick the faults in your nasty posts, Mr Anonymous of 12.03 and 23.13
As for Lin "targetting women in an aggressive way", I really fail to see what you're talking about. In fact he recently posted a very long piece defending Cr Parker's performance. I have always found Lin fair and reasonably impartial. Well done Lin.
Just so we understand the Local Government Act clearer. A conviction doesn't preclude her from standing. What will is if she has been "sentenced" and the sentencing period is active at the time of being a councillor or standing to be a councillor. Not all sentences will stop her or Sean from holding office or running again. A suspended sentence, probation, an intensive correctional order or actual imprisonment whether wholly or deferred will cop the sack.
What gets me worked up is who cares? Hajnal and Sean have annoyed enough people by their antics without any legal comeuppance. They're not the only candidates in their races with history. Everyone has a history if you dig far back enough. Hypocrites live in shallow holes. Judge people on who they are today that matters. Star chambers don't represent normal people doing their best.
Hi Anonymous of 17:13, quoting yesterday's Jimboomba Times, page 3, A guilty verdict for any of them would disqualify her from being a councillor.
Is that simple enough for you?
Thanks Lin. Not having a crack at you but I dare ask that since the Jimboomba Times has spoken that must be the end of it right? Not all of the JT readership have fallen off the back of a turnip truck.
For a guilty conviction to act as the dismissal trigger or fail the qualifications test for re-/election, the crime convicted for must count as a disqualifying electoral offence (See http://ecq.qld.gov.au/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=5073) laid out in the Candidate's Handbook issued by the ECQ. That's the law of the land as quoted. If she doesn't get slapped with one of those then as written she'll good to go.
The only question now is whether the alleged LGA offences count as "electoral" offences for the purposes of the Act and whether the failure to disclose receives a conviction. So much up in the air!
Hi Anonymous of 22:03, sorry I'm so late releasing your comment to the web site. Google has a bad habit of holding up an occasional comment and I don't get to see anything for, usually, about two days. But this one escaped the bag completely it seems. And it is a vital comment to help people understand.
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